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    I retired approx 1.5 years ago. I was military, Search and rescue, helicopters, Ch113 and CH149 (Canada, equivalent airframes: H46 and EH101). 30 years of that tends to beat a body (and mind) up pretty good and they finally decided I was too broken up to carry on and gave me the "golden parachute". I've got lots of physical problems and scars (inside and out), but no regrets. It was a life well worth the sacrifice. Not many people can say the have lost track of how many lives they've saved (and how many things they never want to see again).

    While I've no shortage of projects (new house build, C4 Corvette, Fox Mustang, Fj1200, 8x8 Argo, touring bike, etc), I'm just starting to turn the loft over the garage into "my space". As you can see by my "toys list", I'm a car guy, from way back. I've always wanted to build a model track, because, well, I'm a car guy. Trains just won't cut it.

    When my FIL passed away, he left a lot of Nascar stuff behind. Specifically, he was a super sized Petty fan. One of the things that arrived in our house was a Life Like Richard Petty Daytona Nascar HO slot set. Complete, in it's original box. Stickers, warranty paperwork, poster, LL catalog, etc...all of it in mint condition. He pulled it out once to try it and then it went back into the box. For him, it was a collectable to sit on a shelf, not a slot car set to be run and banged up. But being HO, it's pretty small, reminded me more of the toy sets I used to play with as a child.

    So I looked around at 1:24, 1:32, 1: 43, etc. The digital stuff all looked pretty good to me, with all the options it gives you over the old analog sets. But then came price. Ye-ow! That stuff ain't cheap! Even more so of a shock was a basic kit was pretty expensive, and I'd still have to add a lot to it (IE: $$$) to get to where I want to be. I've got lots of things to spend money on and a slot car set isn't one of them. At least not a "full boat" set with all the fancy options. Analog will do just fine thank you!

    Scale also started to become a problem. I've got lots of room and could make a monstrous track if I wanted (room is 22x28) and the larger scales sure looked great with all their clearly visible detail! But all I really want is something I can build up to be somewhat realistic, have a little fun with and not consume the entire room. The room is multipurpose and it has to stay that way. It holds computer setups, 3d printers,industrial sewing machines (Leather upholstery), etc, etc. So I pulled my expectations down to HO size, mainly to keep it on a single sheet of 4x8 and have enough of a layout to still be interesting.

    So now I can use the old LL Petty Nascar set and save even more bucks! I set it up, cleaned it up, fixed a few electrical bug a boo's and had a go:

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    Pardon the mess, still setting up the room. Had to change up the layout slightly to fit the table. It's only around 3x6 feet.

    The 42 and 43 Pontiacs (Richard and Kyle) are the only slot cars there, the rest are hot wheels and such. The ones in the set are "Fast Trackers".

    Was fun ripping them around, but I need more to hold my interest. And what is it with old controllers getting hot and stinking?!? Yeah right, pure, 100% resistance driven speed control.....ugh. After I get rolling, I'll have to look in to a different option for controllers other than straight resistance driven.

    Off to ebay I grab a two more track sets, both Life Like stuff. One is "pole position challenge", but missing cars. I got it because it was cheap and there is a boatload of track in it. The other set was 40 bucks and it was a "Nascar truck challenge" set. Comes complete (and with an extra truck), but it's only a figure 8 track.

    Then I grabbed a 77-79 Thunderbird AFX nascar. I paid waaaay too much for it, but one of my first cars was a 78 T-Bird and I wanted it. Grabbed four 440x2 chassis while I was there. That just about sets me up to build whatever I want and 10 chassis' to chose from to mount bodies. Bodies I will either 3d print, or use Hot Wheels or maybe scan the hot wheels and 3d print them. That way, I can scale up and down as needed.

    Plan is to give each lane it's own power supply. Build it into the table (IE: MDF) and a full track setting around it. I want elevation changes, so some of the track will have to be "mountainous" I guess. Thinking I'll do a 4 lane track as I certainly have enough.

    I grabbed a set of 4 turn out sections from a tyco (or AFX maybe) set. Plan is to build some solenoid "flippers" into the track to give drivers a chance to pit if they want. That's not going to be overly hard, but not simple either. I grabbed a couple NOS adapter pieces (LL to Tyco) to hook the turn outs to the LL track, but then realized since I am attaching the track to the table, I can just snip off the lugs, snug the tracks together, connect the electrical terminals from each set and we're off and running. I don't ever plan to break it down, so having it permanent isn't a big deal.

    For pit lane I looked at the AFX hologram unit, but soon discovered that it is (for the most part) just a piece of glass to reflect your iPhone screen. The "hologram" is just an iPhone app. I downloaded the app and held it over a piece of glass and bingo! Holograms. The rest is just printed cardboard. I can do better than that and will make something up on the 3d printer. At least it will have a "real" 3d texture to it (ie: wood, brick, etc) instead of just printed cardboard. I also have several old iPhones laying around (we get a new one every time you re-up your plan) so I can make a couple pits with the holograms in it if I want. I don't need lap counting and such, I just want those neat little holograms.

    Since it's all HO, some train stuff should work for some bits of scenery. Like trees, bushes and such. I've got one of those thick "HO train track building" books that will provide lots of useful hints and ideas about that.

    Whatever else I need will be the 3d printer's job. Buildings, people, even car bodies. I've already downloaded quite a bit from the free 3d print sites and it's not overly hard to custom make whatever I may want. For anything mechanical, well....I've got a metal lathe, small knee mill, MIG and TIG out in the shop. I can TIG razor blades together, so I think I can handle anything I need for a slot car set.

    Electronics? Yeah, this is all pretty basic stuff after working on helicopters, supersonic aircraft, heavy transports, etc my whole career. No challenges there.

    Should be fun. I'll update as I get a few things underway.

    Last edited by Tourmax; August 3, 2020, 07:56 PM.

  • #2
    welcome to he crazy ride that is slot cars. were are you located? might be some local clubs that you could race with.

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    • #3
      Looks like you've got it all covered - interested in what you come up with! Welcome, and thank you for your life of service! With all that space I'm a little disappointed you aren't going with Carrera 1/24-1/32!! The detail in the cars available in both scales is ridiculous in an extremely rewarding car-guy kinda way!!

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      • #4
        Had a go at a first 3d print for the track. Just something simple. I downloaded a car stand and scaled it down to HO size. It came down to be quite small, so I added a raft to it so it would adhere solidly to the print table:

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        The raft breaks away cleanly and it pops on the car:

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        Now it sits nice and level and all the tires are off the ground to help stave off flat spotting:

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        Not too shabby. Took 20 mins to print. Now to load up some black and start punching them out for more cars. It's not "perfect" though. I'll do some tweaking to make it fit better, but pretty good for a first go. Helps that I had a file to work from instead of a complete scratch build....
        Last edited by Tourmax; August 3, 2020, 07:58 PM.

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        • #5
          I think I might have a track layout I can be happy with:

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          Silverstone.

          Back in 05, we were in the UK to fly the Brits EH101 simulator (CH149 is an EH101 variant). While there, I dropped about a cool G on the "Silverstone Experience". It was a lot of money, but it was a once in a lifetime opportunity that I wasn't going to pass up. I got to drive Ferrari's, Lotus's and open wheels around Silverstone for a couple days. I even did the Landrover off road sections. It was a ball and is still a high point in my memories.. That's all my paperwork and brochures from the days.

          So I've got a little bit of a soft spot for the track. Not many elevation changes, it only varies about 10-15 meters across the whole track (built on an old aerodrome site). But I can always add some (or exaggerate what's already there a bit) without mucking it up too badly....

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          • #6
            Welcome to the AWESOME WORLD OF SLOTTING...looks like ya got a good start!!!
            TOM...HOME RACING GOO GOO!!!

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            • #7
              I'm still short on track for what I want, so I went on a bit of an ebay "tear".



              First up, track. Not doing anything without track. And since my FIL left me a lifelike set, I went with that. So I grabbed a couple assorted lots:







              Nice bit of rokar stuff, same as Lifelike.







              Nice batch of LIfe like.







              Another big lot.









              And another big lot.





              I wanted a pit lane turn out, and since lifelike doesn't have that option, I grabbed some afx stuff :







              I plan to build some solenoid driven flippers in the slots to enter/bypass pit lane. Just a simple button press at your driver station and into pit lane you go. But that's certainly not enough track length to make a pit lane, so I needed more AFX stuff:







              That will make for a pit lane that can pit both cars to the inside and there will be a lane change on the front straight in front of the grandstands. A couple AFX to lifelike adapters were also ordered up.



              That about sets me up to build the track I want, with a fair bit left over.



              Got maybe 200 bucks Cdn in all of that

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              • #8
                Next up: cars.



                Some of these came with some of the sets, others I bought separately.



                With the truck set:







                With the daytona set:







                I needed thew track, but I also really wanted the 70's oldsmobile cutlass (had one of those too). Liked the "aero" regal as well.

                I bought this set for the Peugot and the VW:







                I want to eventually add a rally track somewhere, so I bought this mostly for the cars.



                A 77-79 tbird:









                Paid a bit much for this one, mainly becuase one of my first (and most loved) cars was a 78 TBird



                (to be cont)

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                • #9
                  Cars (con't)











                  Had to have a hot wheels Twin mill!



                  Needed something to run against the twin mill, so this fit the bill:







                  It's just a body, but I've got what I need to fix that on the way.



                  These are a bit ratty, I bought them for the two bodies (I've got an 88 c4 corvette convertible in the garage) and any usable parts. They were cheap, really cheap....









                  Then some nos 440's



                  Gray wheels:



                  Glow in dark wheels:









                  Ran across this while digging:









                  I'd planned to make a scale 1/4 mile track, now I have a start on it!



                  That's about it for now, except for the couple doesn't 3d body files I've already downloaded and a dozen or so hot wheels I bought at the store. Plan is to 3d scan them and scale the bodies to fit the chassis. Or, I may 3d print a couple chassis to fit the hot wheels body dimensions. It will all depend on what looks decent/proper in HO scale.


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                  • #10
                    Assorted "gew gaws".



                    Power:







                    Bought two, one to power each lane.



                    Ran across this:







                    Thought it was neat and will look cool at the drivers station I plan to build. Got it for 10 bucks because it's very ratty and one side is broken inside. Broken little plastic bits. Not a problem if you have a 3d scanner and 3d printer! I'll just scan the working side and print off a new piece for the broken side.



                    Heck, I can re-print the whole thing if I want. Nothing complicated inside except for one simple solenoid.....



                    Wanted a little better controllers, but didn't want to spend big bucks on them. Ended up with a reasonable compromise:







                    Little bit better quality (so I read) but they also give me "brakes", so that's a step up. Not a big thing on HO, but still nice. Especially when on pit row. It's still resistive, so it's still going to get hot after a lot of use. I'm considering adding a small fan to it and a couple other "mods". Lots you can do with a simple DC circuit....... Thinking



                    So that's right about where I sit. I've got he 4x8 table built, now it's just a matter of waiting for all this stuff to drop on my doorstep and start building. Should be fun.



                    Looking at a bevy of timers, sensor and programs right now for lap timing and such.



                    I've also got somewhere around 100 files for people, buildings and track paraphernalia. 3d printer will be working overtime for a while once we get going. Nice thing is I don't have to print something off until I know where I want to put it. That's a nice change from having to buy a bunch of something and end up not using most of it....



                    I'm still on the hunt for 20-30 feet of straight track though. Got a couple I'm keeping and eye on that will set me up the way I want.


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                    • #11
                      Well, decided I wanted that drag track and threw caution to the wind:







                      Had to drop nearly 200 CAd (shipping to Canada from the US is just nuts!).



                      29 25" pieces, that's 36-ish feet. There's also 3 15" squeeze tracks. Can't use them on a drag strip, but I have other ideas for those......


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                      • #12
                        Looks like you're head first into having lots of HO slot car FUN!
                        Please let me recommend to you, from my 55+ years in the hobby, that if you want to really get involved with expanding your track layout, I (and many others here) would point you in the direction of the current TOMY AFX track. It is readily available, has been in production for decades, and has more different track section sizes and configurations than any other manufacturer has ever produced. FIVE different radius two lane curved sections are just the beginning.
                        It doesn't sound as if you're interested in getting involved with expensive custom routed track systems. I know you've bought a bit of the Life Like track sections, but I'm sure by now you've noticed the selection of track is very limited with that system. You can always sell off the Life Like stuff as you increase your stock of the AFX system. Go to <afxracing.com> to view everything that's available. Of course, just about any HO cars you buy will run on the AFX and other track systems.
                        Hope this helps you along to further enjoyment of the great hobby of HO slot car racing! Good luck, and... have FUN! -- Ernie :>)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BIG E View Post
                          Looks like you're head first into having lots of HO slot car FUN!
                          Please let me recommend to you, from my 55+ years in the hobby, that if you want to really get involved with expanding your track layout, I (and many others here) would point you in the direction of the current TOMY AFX track. It is readily available, has been in production for decades, and has more different track section sizes and configurations than any other manufacturer has ever produced. FIVE different radius two lane curved sections are just the beginning.
                          It doesn't sound as if you're interested in getting involved with expensive custom routed track systems. I know you've bought a bit of the Life Like track sections, but I'm sure by now you've noticed the selection of track is very limited with that system. You can always sell off the Life Like stuff as you increase your stock of the AFX system. Go to <afxracing.com> to view everything that's available. Of course, just about any HO cars you buy will run on the AFX and other track systems.
                          Hope this helps you along to further enjoyment of the great hobby of HO slot car racing! Good luck, and... have FUN! -- Ernie :>)
                          Yes, I had noticed that. But the lifelike track has what I need in order to make what I want so it's all good. Some parts will need to have some AFX track spliced in and there's a spot or two where I may have to make my own track sections. That's not a problem for me. Easy Peasy.

                          It's all going on a 4x8 table and being permanently mounted, so no real changes to the track once laid out. I've got a pretty interesting layout in mind.

                          A curving circuitous route, elevation changes, terrain, tunnels, a (separate) rally section and a 20-25 foot drag lane. The rally and drag section are going to be AFX track though. It just worked out that I found a decent sized clutch of it "inexpensive" enough to make it worth my while. Also leaves all the LL stuff for my road course.

                          Not to mention, the LL stuff seems to command a much lower price than AFX.

                          Last edited by Tourmax; August 9, 2020, 06:22 PM.

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                          • #14

                            Surfin' the big auction site again this morning and ran across another AFX "dynomite" dragster:


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                            It's pretty good from the pics. Fairly clean at least. It was on auction (I prefer buy it now) with an opening bid of 24 bucks. I bit up to 35 bucks, but thew guy obviously wasn't watching his auction and I got it for 26 bucks. Not bad at all!

                            Now I've got two "fuelers" I can race against each other.

                            Also grabbed a "cheapy" for 4 bucks:


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                            Location said "poland" and it looks to be some kind of lane changer, kind of like the TCR/speed steer stuff:

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                            Meh, I'm only after the body, so the chassis can go in the parts bin...


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                            • #15
                              had a seller offer a reduced price on these:

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                              Listed as "NOS in box, Screechers". Looks to be early Manga-steer stuff (IE: no slot pin). Not that it matters. Since they've got the "funny car" look, I plan to pull the guts out and make them straight up drag cars. Might try to reuse the chassis with a pin and locking the front wheels. If it doesn't work, I can always drop the body on a diff chassis. Or, I can take the mechanical bits out of the existing chassis, make a new one with a longer wheelbase and drop these back down on it.

                              Should be cool.

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