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***2020 scca proxy rules and registration thread*******

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    2020 SCCA Proxy Rules and Registration

    Alright guys, this proxy has been in limbo for a little while. Someone else was interested in doing it, but it never materialized. So I am taking it over!

    Many of you know from the F1 Proxy thread that these are my first two proxies as an organizer, so I will be up front about this one. Many of these cars and this area of racing were before my time, I love this era and had an absolute blast running and seeing these cars at their Portland stop on the tour. However, when it comes to legality of cars and such I am going to rely on many of you to be self governing as I am no expert.

    I have read the previous registration thread in its entirety, and I think I have a grasp on the classification and the ruleset. If there is anything you would like to see changed from the previous round of this proxy I recommend you get in this thread and talk about it ASAP.

    There are a couple things here that are going to change:
    1. We need to pick new start date, if anyone has any insight on this and how much time should be allowed I would like to hear it.
    2. Because of the number of entries in this proxy, the reg thread was pretty messy with people getting signed up. Please PM me your entry information, and I will update the list ASAP. You are of course welcomed to talk about said entry in this thread as well. But I would just like a clear record of entries through PM to make combing the material easier!

    I hope to fill Allan's shoes and make this a successful and enjoyable proxy for everybody. I for one am very excited to get to work building a car for this. Let the party begin!




    Rules

    Overview:

    This is a proxy race series for the cars that ran in SCCA events from 1951-1965. Those include cars that competed in the SCCA National Sports Car Championship (1951-64) and the first 3 years of the SCCA United States Road Racing Championship, which ran 1963-68. There were some great cars in this timeframe. We plan to run the cars as if they were all SCCA National Sports Car Championship entries; with two Divisions - Production and Modified, and several classes based on motor displacement; AP, BP, CP, etc. and AM, BM, CM, etc. We are fortunate that Thompson (studioRS) is willing to make up an SCCA decal sheet for us which will have all of the Division and Class decals on them, as well as some neat period sponsor decals (see more on this below). Based on the availability of this decal sheet, all entries will bear the Division and Class of the car as it ran, or would have run, in the SCCA National Sports Car Championship. We are limiting this event to a total of 40 racers; 20 in the Production Division and 20 in the Modified Division (see more on this below).


    With that in mind, this proxy series does have some minimum Rules. PLEASE READ THEM THOROUGHLY!

    The Proxy Event:

    Concourse: The first event TBD will have a Concourse judging event. This event is an important and fun part of this proxy race because it recognizes the efforts and model-making of each entry and recognizes the raw beauty of these cars in 1/32 scale. Please make every effort to make your car look like it would have back in the day!!!

    The Concourse will be voted upon by the volunteer drivers that will be attending the first race at Rippin' Ridin' Raceway. The cars will be judged on paint and appearance, assembly, realism, and their vintage flair.

    Race Format: Finishing order for each round of the proxy race and the entire series will be determined by distance covered. This is based on laps driven within a set amount of time.

    A minimum of 3 minutes racing time per car per lane is required at each track.

    Each car is to be raced in a fair and equal manner and subject to the same track conditions. Lane and driver rotations to be determined by track host. Track hosts, this proxy has switched to rubber tires only for the 2020 season. To make racing as fair as possible we ask that you do some laps with rubber cars to clean up the lanes some, as most of you know this is a critical step in maintaining rubber tire performance.

    Winner of each race based on total distance traveled with points awarded base on the number of cars in the race. For example, in a 20 car field, the winner gets 20 points, second place gets 19, etc.

    Tracks: This series will run at different 10 tracks; all in the US; in keeping with the spirit of the original SCCA races. All tracks will be routed wood.

    Track voltage will be set between 10-12 volts at the host’s discretion and shall be equal for all cars.

    Registration Fee: The Registration Fee is $25 per entry ($20 entry fee and $5 for an SCCA decal sheet) which will be mailed to each registered racer at least two months prior to the due date for the cars. Entrants are limited to one car for this series. It can be either a Production or a Modified Division car. This fee is due by December 1st Payment by PayPal is preferred to: [email protected]

    Due Date: All entries are due at the first track in the series – January 15th

    Mailing address for cars is:
    Zack Morgan
    13339 NE Airport Way suite #500
    Portland, OR, 97230


    Racing Start Date: FEB 1ST

    Sign-Up and Waiting List: The series is limited to 40 total cars. Position on the Sign-up sheet will be on a first come – first served basis. Those who sign up after the 40 slots are filled will be put on a Waiting List. As of TBD, any racer on the Sign-Up list who has not paid his Registration Fee may have his slot taken by a racer from the Waiting List who does pay his Registration Fee. The mechanism for moving up from the Waiting List to the Sign-up List will be based on the last number racer on the Sign-Up list who has not paid his Registration Fee being vulnerable to the first number racer on the Waiting List who has paid his Registration Fee, and so forth. The reason for the July 1 Registration Fee deadline is to give races who move up from the Waiting List time to build and tune their entries.

    Prizes: There WILL be prizes awarded; for both the top 3 places in the Concourse; for the top 3 places in the Production Division and for the top 3 places in the Modified Division. All prizes TBD at this time.


    The Proxy Rules:

    Eligible Cars: ANY car that participated in at least one race in the SCCA National Sports Car Championship or the United States Road Racing Championship series during the period 1951-1965. The best place to check out qualifying cars is on the Racing Sports Car (http://www.racingsportscars.com) website. There you will find the championship series; each of the races by year and all of the car entered in each race. If you have questions about a particular car that you are not clear on, then contact the Proxy Coordinator,Zack Morgan (ZackM)

    ****NEW FOR 2020***** NO CAN AM OR THUNDERSLOT CARS WILL BE ALLOWED IN THIS PROXY. A POLL WAS CONDUCTED AMONG RACERS TO MAKE THIS DECISION!

    Body: ANY injection moulded, resin cast or 3D printed body in 1/32 scale.

    No changes to wheel wells allowed and no body lowering that gives the car a “slammed” look.
    Lightweight interiors allowed, but must be 3 dimensional and painted to show drivers head, shoulders, arms, steering wheel and dash, and a roll bar.
    Entrant’s name must be noted on underside of car as well as instructions for body float adjustments, if any.
    Car numbers must be unique; no duplicate numbers. Numbers will be reserved on a first come – first served basis.
    Tires must fit fully under the fenders. Tires may NOT project beyond body work when viewed from above.
    Clear window material must be present on both windshield and rear window on enclosed cockpit cars and as a windscreen on open cockpit cars and may be vacuum formed.
    Bodies must be removable to allow inspection and photography prior to the first race, if needed, and to allow maintenance and repair during the race series.

    Chassis: ANY chassis that is stock, aftermarket, scratch built, or 3D printed using any material, is eligible.

    Podded or non-podded chassis allowed
    Inline / sidewinder / anglewinder configurations all OK
    Underside of car chassis and body must clear track road surface, on level track, by 1.5mm minimum (clearance). Will be teched on setup block!
    Guide must be entirely under body, and NOT visible when viewed from above.
    Traction magnets are NOT permitted.
    Bearing-type of axle bushings are NOT permitted.
    All chassis MUST be mounted like an RTR car - meaning screws through the chassis to body mounting points and no pins THROUGH the body, Velcro, etc. However, a chassis with side mounts such as the HRS/HSR-2 can be used - as long as the pins do NOT go through the body.

    Gears: ANY stock or aftermarket gears and ratios of your choice may be used.

    Motor: There are two spec motors for this proxy; an FC can and an FF slimline. The spec. FC motor is the H&R Hawk (manufacturer's spec. = 18,000 rpm / 140 g.cm torque / 6.3 Watts). The spec FF motor is the Policar PMX01 (manufacturer's spec. = 25,000 rpm / 95 g.com torque / 6.0 Watts). These are the preferred motors for this proxy. However, if these motors are not available to an entrant, then ANY commercially available FC-130 or FF-050 motor may be used; as long as it's manufacturer's specs do not exceed BOTH the rpm and torque specs. for the two spec. motors. If the manufacturer's specs are not readily and routinely available for a given motor, then it is not legal for this series.

    Motors may not be opened or modified in any way versus the stock commercially available motor; external capacitors may be removed

    Wheels: ANY Plastic or aluminium wheels not larger than 15x8.5mm may be used.

    Wheels must have period inserts or look reasonably period for the car - no BBS or blank aluminum insert wheels please.

    Tires: Tires for this proxy are to be rubber only. We will be allowing any tire that is spec'd at 8.5mm as packaged, but MUST NOT MEASURE MORE THAN 9MM DURING TECH WHEN MEASURED WITH CALIPERS!! This new rule is to accommodate all tire manufacturers, Slot.it, NSR, and many others all offer 8.5mm tires in various heights. Please do not abuse this ruling, I will be teching cars stringently on this because of the already relaxed rules vs. last year. Please remember these cars are supposed to look scale, I believe this rule will allow them to keep this appearance and provide good performance for everyone.

    No chemicals or oil-based preparation is allowed. (Tires may not appear wet of leave marks on track after arrival)
    Tires are measured inner to outer sidewall; not just the contact patch
    Tires may be cleaned in any manner prior to shipping them to the first race.
    Nail polish or clear coating of front tires is allowed.
    No 0-ring tires on the front, but front tires may be profiled

    Inspection and Repairs: A running inspection of cars is to be made before and after each race. Cars may be cleaned, lubricated and the braids may be adjusted, as needed. The only tire cleaning allowed is tape rolling and non-chemical liquids such as water. Minor adjustments may be made prior to the car being raced without penalty. If a car breaks during a race the track host may repair that car but the car will have a 3 lap penalty assessed against it for that Round. If a major repair is required, the track host will contact the car's owner to determine if the damaged car should be sent home for repair between races. This will be done at the car owner's expense. Car is to be forwarded to the next event by the owner and at the owner's expense.

    Hosts: If you would like to host - please contact wanabgts here on the forum. You must be a member in good standing before we can consider you. This is to protect both HRW, the Proxy itself, as well as the car owners.
    A picture and a description of the particulars of your track must be posted in the soon to be posted "2018 SCCA Proxy - Track"s thread
    Rules for Track Hosts will be sent to each host well in advance of their Round.

    Car and Track Visuals: Hosts will need to provide pictures of the following during your Round:

    Pictures of the full field of cars on your track
    Pictures of the top three winners on your track (the start/finish line is a great idea)
    A spreadsheet of the results sent to ZackM within 24 hours of the actual race so official updates can be made
    Video and/or live streaming is encouraged but not required.


    Unclassified Entries

    1. ALS #63-paid
    2. JeremyC #55

    Modified Entries


    1. CourtneyS GT40 B/M #0 paid
    2 . Mitch58 GT40 B/M #13 paid
    3. wanabgts GT40 B/M #9paid
    4. BigDuhg GT40 mk1 B/M #64 paid
    5. chrisguyw GT40 B/M #2 paid
    6. brumosRSR GT40 B/M #33 paid
    7. Double-B GT-40 B/M #5 paid
    8. Aloha GT40 Mk1 B/M #11 paid
    9.. 101 corvettes C2 B/M #10 paid
    10. Dodgefarmer Cooper Monaco C/M #97 paid
    11. arroldn Ferrari 250 GTO C/M #112 paid
    12. Gascarnut Cooper Monaco C/M #4 paid
    13. torquemutant D Jaguar C/M #60 paid
    14. glasshorsevh Elva MkVll BMW D/M #67 paid
    15. BARC 1 Lotus 23 D/M #20 paid


    Production Class

    1. Audi1 Corvette C2 A/P #19 paid
    2. Docdoom Corvette C2 A/P #65 paid
    3. Austin AC Cobra Coupe A/P #17 paid
    4. CJ74 AC Cobra A/P #49 paid
    5. Mseitz 350GT A/P #61 paid
    6. Alexis in Greece #46 C/P Austin Healey
    7. arroldn Porsche 911 D/P #1 paid
    8. ZackM Cobra AP #18
    Last edited by ZackM; January 22, 2020, 10:45 PM.

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    I'm In GT40 #0 Please

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    • #3
      Update for the new forum!!!!

      As you guys migrate over here with the other forum now diverted. Please look over the list of the names and paid and make sure I got everything correct on this forum. For a while there was a lot of copying and pasting going on!

      I also have awesome news. This is my first year taking over this proxy, and I think it is a great one. I have teamed up with my local club NASTE (Northwest Association of Slot Track Enthusiasts), to supply the first place finisher with a special prize! Bill Bostic supplied us with an awesome Chaparral collectors set, courtesy of the Gary (Goose) Gossett collection! I am working on some other prizes for the other podium finishers, as well as something special for the Show n' shine winner!

      Build hard and fast gentlemen!

      Zack


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      • #4
        Just a little side note here, our friend and racing buddy "Goose" absolutely loved the Chaparrals. They were by far his favorite racing cars. I can think of no better way to honor his memory than present this Chaparral set to a group of international racers as a grand price for this proxy. This set was in Gary's extensive private collection and I know he valued it greatly. Thank you Zack for taking on this proxy, and for representing our club NASTE!

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        • #5
          We were listed as unclassified on the old site, but not here. Tiny Alice Racing is still wishing to enter under the #67.

          Thanks, Val

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          • #6
            I will be entering a Ferrari 166 car number to follow. Are 3 digit numbers allowed?
            Mike - Galena Ohio

            "When you're back there with the squirrels, you're bound to get your nuts cracked." - Graham Rahal

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Zcarfan View Post
              I will be entering a Ferrari 166 car number to follow. Are 3 digit numbers allowed?
              Shouldn't be a problem to run a 3 digit number....

              Zack

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              • #8
                Add me to the list please:

                Cooper Monaco, #4, class would be CM, I guess.
                Dennis Samson

                Scratchbuilding is life
                Life is scratchbuilt

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Gascarnut View Post
                  Add me to the list please:

                  Cooper Monaco, #4, class would be CM, I guess.
                  Will do Dennis!

                  Also, I received a payment today via paypal for someone wanting #30. PLEASE send it with your registered forum name if you don't plan on signing your posts. I have no idea who it comes from otherwise. I will put it on the list with first name only for now.

                  Zack

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                  • #10
                    I would like to enter please, #16, but not sure what car or class. Thanks, Brian/Duke7777

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                    • #11
                      We are up to 26 total entries right now guys! This is a popular race, I can't wait to see what you all come up with!

                      Zack

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                      • #12
                        Hi guys,

                        I've heard some talk about people who are thinking about running a Thunderslot Lola T-70 in this SCCA Proxy.

                        Save yourself some time, the Lola T- 70 in either the spyder or coupe form, didn't run in any SCCA or USRRC events during the period 1951-65. So, it doesn't make the cut. The T-70 was a CanAm car and if you want to see how it does vs. other CanAm cars, then have a look at the ongoing 2019 CanAm Proxy series, which is coming up on Round #8 next weekend in Edomoton. They can certainly hold their own in that class, although the Thunderslot McLarens seems to be doing just a little better in that series.

                        Once more - the Ford GT-40 Mk1 is legal for this proxy, the Lola T-70 is not. And if the GT-40's dominate this season, then they'll be out again for 2021, as they were for 2019. Th e 2020 SCCA Proxy isn't a race to find the fastest car - it's a race to build the fastest car.

                        Thanks for your understanding.

                        Allan

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ZackM View Post
                          We are up to 26 total entries right now guys! This is a popular race, I can't wait to see what you all come up with!

                          Zack
                          There were some very cool cars that ran in SCCA events during the period 1951-65; both in the Modified and Production Divisions.

                          It was a blast last year and will, I'm sure, be the same this year!

                          Allan

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Audi1 View Post
                            Hi guys,

                            I've heard some talk about people who are thinking about running a Thunderslot Lola T-70 in this SCCA Proxy.

                            Save yourself some time, the Lola T- 70 in either the spyder or coupe form, didn't run in any SCCA or USRRC events during the period 1951-65. So, it doesn't make the cut. The T-70 was a CanAm car and if you want to see how it does vs. other CanAm cars, then have a look at the ongoing 2019 CanAm Proxy series, which is coming up on Round #8 next weekend in Edomoton. They can certainly hold their own in that class, although the Thunderslot McLarens seems to be doing just a little better in that series.

                            Once more - the Ford GT-40 Mk1 is legal for this proxy, the Lola T-70 is not. And if the GT-40's dominate this season, then they'll be out again for 2021, as they were for 2019. Th e 2020 SCCA Proxy isn't a race to find the fastest car - it's a race to build the fastest car.

                            Thanks for your understanding.

                            Allan
                            Allan, thanks for posting. I discussed this with many others in this proxy. Your knowledge of this era far surpasses my own.

                            We are really trying to provide a race for fun and interesting cars of this time period.

                            I appreciate all of you pm'd and called to discuss this and the gt40 with me. As Allan said, if the gt40 dominates this proxy then we have every intention of removing it for the following year.

                            Thanks for your understanding in this matter.

                            Zack

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                            • #15
                              While I agree that the Thunderslot Lola T70 ( and the GT40) should not be eligible for this proxy for a variety of reasons, ........failure to compete in any SCCA/USRRC event in 1965 is certainly not one of the Lola T70's faults........I am not trying to change the rules in any way,......just add a bit of relevant history for those who did not know.

                              Cheers
                              Chris Walker

                              Entry list for the "Pepsi" 200"... Mosport Sept. 25th 1965.......this is over 2.0ltr. group

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                              Starting grid for the 1965 "LA Times" GP, Riverside Ca.

                              **Bob Bondurant on pole !!............# 11


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                              Entry list for the 1965 Road America "500"

                              Hard to read this one.........Walt Hangsen drove the #11 Mecom entered T70

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