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    The cars are officially leaving today for Allan's place. There was a small delay as I figuredout how I wanted to package the cars. Unfortunately because of the couple dropouts, adding the third foam piece I had didn't make sense. So my car is packaged seperately in the box, hopefully this works out ok!

    These are sandwhiched in some high density foam layers inside the box, and my car is in a seperate little compartment. I think they should be very safe with this configuration!

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    I will leave to Allan from here!

    Zack

  • #2
    The cars arrived today - the box looks intact, so I think we're all set for Round #2.

    I'll get the Changing Gearz team together as soon as I can and will keep you posted on the timing for the race; which will probably be either the Sunday between Christmas and New Years or sometime during the weekend after New Years.

    I'll be curious to see how the foam packing worked out for cross-country shipping.

    Allan

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    • #3
      Just a word of caution........foam has a tendency of grabbing the individual strands on pick up braid. (especially when packed like this).......a quick check would be wise

      Happy Holidays
      Chris Walker
      Last edited by chrisguyw; December 14, 2019, 03:05 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by chrisguyw View Post
        Just a word of caution........foam has a tendency of grabbing the individual strands on pick up braid. (especially when packed like this).......a quick check would be wise

        Happy Holidays
        Chris Walker
        Chris, you are correct. I spread the foam out with my fingers as i was inserting the car's.... hopefully others will do the same!

        Zack

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        • #5
          Good Luck to all the builders
          The Jester
          of Da Lou (St. Louis) but from
          the Soxside (Chicago)

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          • #6
            It's looking like the race will take place on January 5th. I'll do the qualy sometime during the week before Christmas and New Years.

            As Tony said - good luck to all!

            Allan

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            • #7
              The Round #2 Qualy is in the books!

              But, before I get to the results, I wanted to mention that many of the cars had braid problems upon arrival. 7 or the 13 had braids bent back on themselves, 2 had one correct braid and one bent back and 4 cars had correct braids. I can think of only one thing that may have happened and that is that there was some back-and-forth movement of the cars in their foam bays (see Zack's packing array in the first post of this thread) and that, over time, it resulted in the bent braids. The only other possibility that I can see is that someone opened the shipping box, removed and re-inserted the cars and that led to the bent braids.

              Here are the 7 cars with double bent braids:

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              Here is a close-up of the braids on aloha's car:

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              and here are the 2 cars with one correct braid and one bent braid:

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              I took some time and flattened the braids on all the cars. They all came back into proper position. I then lightly brushed each braid with a cotton swab with Inox on it to make sure that there was no problem with the contact points. Based on the results of the Qualy, I can say that there was no lasting damage done to any of the braids and all of the cars performed well on-track.

              I ran the Qualy, drove each car for 10 practice laps to get used to the car, to be sure that the braids were making contact all the way around the track and to set the controller for the car. I then ran 10 laps for Qualification and recorded Fastest Lap, 10-Lap Average and Comments. Tires were swiped on a sticky pad before the practice laps, before the Qualification laps and whenever a car de-slotted.

              Here's your field:

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              And here they are again; this time in Qualy order - taken from the results of Round #1; from lower left to upper right:

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              And now for the results.


              Position / Car # / Fastest Lap / 10-Lap Average / Comments


              13 / 20 / 7.335 / 7.44 / Gears feel bound, car feels heavy, noisy

              12 / 21 / 7.029 / 7.19 / Quick, front wheels are bound, can break traction

              11 / 7 / 7.011 / 7.09 / Quiet, smooth, motor feels a little sluggish

              10 / 8 / 6.736 / 6.80 / Handle well, motor feel sluggish, some chatter

              9 / 15 / 6.701 / 6.72 / Quiet, very torquey motor, can break traction, great brakes

              8 / 57 / 6.685 / 6.80 / Feels fast, strong motor, can de-slot without warning

              7 / 18 / 6.574 / 6.68 / Good motor, little noisy, can break traction

              6 / 14 / 6.530 / 6.55 / Good power, predictable handling, nice

              5 / 44 / 6.496 / 6.60 / Quiet, easy driver, strong motor, can break traction

              4 / 2 / 6.478 / 6.53 / Some rear tire chatter, strong motor, planted, can break traction

              3 / 17 / 6.441 / 6.60 / Quick, smooth, quiet, planted, will race well

              2 / 19 / 6.365 / 6.46 / Smooth, quiet, motor feels sluggish

              1 / 6 / 6.144 / 6.23 / Smooth, quiet, fast, planted, don't bet against this car...……….


              Congrats to Dale (aloha) on his TQ position - 2/10's ahead of the rest of the field is a huge margin on this track!!


              Here is your Qualy podium:

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              and your starting grid order for Round #2 which will take place this coming Sunday; again, from lower left to upper right:

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              Good luck to everyone!

              Allan
              Last edited by Audi1; January 5, 2020, 06:51 PM.

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              • #8
                Bummer on the braids. Maybe some tape or something on the inside of the foam tray may keep them from snagging?

                My car was dead silent before, so Noise is probably not good!

                Thanks for the run and congrats again to Dale on a dominate run!

                Zack

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                • #9
                  Foam is notorious for grabbing/twisting braid when packing/unpacking, particularly when they cars are a tight squeeze........perhaps a braid check/adjust is order for every remaining round.

                  Cheers
                  Chris Walker

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                  • #10
                    Chris I know you were concerned before regarding this matter. Can the insert where the guide/braid comes in contact with foam be covered in duct tape.
                    Dale

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Aloha View Post
                      Chris I know you were concerned before regarding this matter. Can the insert where the guide/braid comes in contact with foam be covered in duct tape.
                      Dale
                      It can,.......or,..........a thin piece of cardboard (business card/playing card) can be taped to the bottom of each compartment under the guide.

                      Cheers
                      Chris Walker

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                      • #12
                        I'm a complete spectator with this series and greatly appreciate the detailed report and photos.

                        The outcome of the upcoming race seems quite predictable barring mechanical issues, which is how it seems to go in 1:1 F1 these days too. I'll be looking forward to hearing about how the race will be run, and the results, this weekend.

                        Going forward, if anyone has the individual lap time data and wants to post or share it in a PM this retired data nerd would love to play around with it.

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                        • #13
                          Now where did that de-slotting issue come from? Hope it can race.
                          Arrold Martin
                          Nashville TN

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by slothead View Post
                            I'm a complete spectator with this series and greatly appreciate the detailed report and photos.

                            The outcome of the upcoming race seems quite predictable barring mechanical issues, which is how it seems to go in 1:1 F1 these days too. I'll be looking forward to hearing about how the race will be run, and the results, this weekend.

                            Going forward, if anyone has the individual lap time data and wants to post or share it in a PM this retired data nerd would love to play around with it.
                            I run Trackmate and it provides the lap time data as part of the results display. We use total distance traveled as the determining factor in our proxies, so the Trackmate finish order is not always correct since it make assumptions on uncompleted laps. I have been wanting to post the data in table form, but have not figured out how to do that. Can you show me how to do that? Perhaps we could partner on posting the results for this Round, which will finish up Sunday around noon. I can send the results data to you (total laps and lap times) and we can work together to get me a little more into the 21st century on my computer skills. Deal?

                            Allan

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                            • slothead
                              slothead commented
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                              If you PM me whatever race data you have I'll play with it and see what it has to offer. I don't use Trackmate or any timing program, my road course deadstrip is connected to a wireless mouse and creates a left click each time a car passes. The left click triggers a split-time stamp in a timer program, then I cut and paste the list of times into an Excel spreadsheet to compute individual lap times and other statistics. I'll gladly offer to do whatever I can in exchange for data.

                          • #15
                            Good Luck Gentlemen on race day
                            The Jester
                            of Da Lou (St. Louis) but from
                            the Soxside (Chicago)

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