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    With all of the discussion about proxies starting up, I've received a few PM's lately asking if there will be a CanAm Proxy in 2021. The short answer is yes.

    When it will start up has not been determined at this point, because I don't want to schedule due dates too close to those for other proxies. We have a lot of racers who participate in multiple proxies throughout the year, so we need to space things out a little; otherwise, there's just not enough time for the builders/tuners to get their cars prepared. Right now; amid the COVID-19 quarantines and lock-downs, it seems that time is something that a lot of us have in spades. But, when things ease a little (hopefully in a few weeks) and people get back to life as we know it, time, for many, will be just as hard to come by as it was before this pandemic dropped into our collective laps, and probably a lot harder due to the new demands of re-starting our economy.

    Right now, we have the next GT3 proxy starting in early November, the new World Championship proxy is, I think, starting sometime in early 2021, as is the Fly Classics proxy. So, I was thinking about, perhaps, an April or May start-up date for the CanAm, with the end of the series completing before the close of 2021. The 2019 CanAm had a car due date of May 1st. I'll need to get a better handle on the start dates for the other proxies before I set the start date for this one, since they're already posted and registrations are open.

    For those who'd like an advance peek at the Rules, here's a clip from the 2019 CanAm. I expect that the rules will be, pretty much, the same, although we may make some changes to spice things up a little.

    Draft Rules (taken from the 2019 CanAm):
    Eligible Cars: ANY purpose-built, open cockpit Can-Am car that participated in at least one race in the Can-Am Racing series during the period 1966-1974. FIA cars that also raced in Can-Am events are not eligible; this excludes the Porsche 917k and the Ford GT-40 Mk1.
    Body: ANY injection molded, resin cast or 3D printed body in 1/32 scale.
    -----No changes to wheel wells allowed and no body lowering that gives the car a “slammed” look. These cars were low enough!
    -----Lightweight interiors allowed, but must be 3 dimensional and painted to show drivers head, shoulders, arms, steering wheel and dash, and a roll bar.
    -----Entrant’s name must be noted on underside of car as well as instructions for body float adjustments, if any.
    -----Car numbers must be unique; no duplicate numbers.
    -----Tires must fit fully under the fenders. Tires may NOT project beyond body work when viewed from above.
    -----Clear window material must be present; whether a windshield or a windscreen and may be vacuum formed.
    -----Bodies must be removable to allow inspection and photography prior to the first race, if needed, and to allow maintenance and repair during the race series.
    Chassis: ANY chassis that is stock, aftermarket, scratch built, or 3D printed using any material, is eligible. Podded or non-podded chassis allowed
    -----Inline / sidewinder / anglewinder configurations all OK
    -----Underside of car chassis and body must clear track road surface, on level track, by 1.0mm minimum (clearance). (we may revisit this one and go with no clearance spec)
    -----Guide must be entirely under body, and NOT visible when viewed from above.
    -----Traction magnets are NOT permitted.
    -----Suspension permitted
    -----Axle bushing and bearings are allowed on front and rear
    -----All chassis MUST be mounted like an RTR car - meaning screws through the chassis to body mounting points and no pins THROUGH the body, Velcro, etc. However, a chassis with side mounts such as the HRS/HSR-2 can be used - as long as the pins do NOT go through the body. (we may also revisit this one)
    Gears: ANY stock or aftermarket gears and ratios of your choice may be used.
    Motor: ANY commercially available FC-130, FK-130, FK-180 (including Flat 6 models) or FF-050 motor. Motors may not be opened or modified in any way versus the stock commercially available motor; external capacitors may be removed
    Wheels: ANY plastic or aluminum wheels; provided that they do not alter the period look of the car. Wheels must have period inserts or look reasonably period for the car - no BBS or blank aluminum insert wheels please.
    Tires: ANY Rubber tires; provided that they do not alter the period look of the car / the maximum track; front and rear, may not exceed 62.0 mm measured outer sidewall-to-outer sidewall.Tires may be cleaned in any manner prior to shipping them to the first race, but may not be prepared by oil-soaking or other chemical means. Nail polish or clear coating of front tires is allowed. No 0-ring tires on the front, but front tires may be profiled.

    So, there's your peek. In keeping with the tradition of the original CanAm series, everything is pretty much, open. If there are changes to be made, they'll get fully vetted on the forum before we put them in place.

    I'll probably target getting the Rules up towards the middle of November, which will give all the builders and the hosts about 5-6 months to get ready.


    Can you hear it...………..?

    No...? Then try this...…………………...

    Last edited by Audi1; April 21, 2020, 08:18 PM.

  • #2
    Thanks Allan, inquiring minds have been waiting for this one as its a big deal for proxy racers. Only question I have is will the Porsche 908 potentially be considered this year? I know it's a Group 4 car
    The Jester

    Soxside (Chicago)


    • WB2
      WB2 commented
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      Why wouldn’t a Porsche 908/2 be allowed?
      Tony Dean campaigned one for at least two years, even winning one race.

  • #3
    I don't know, Tony. Off the top of my head, I think that proxies work best when you limit it to cars that were purpose-built for the race series that you're trying to replicate at 1/32 scale.

    For example, we opened up the SCCA proxy to the Ford GT-40 this year and it became, virtually, a GT-40 race-off for the top positions. For a car that ran only once or twice in an SCCA event, that seems like an overly dominant effect. And, at the same time, we had the Ford vs Ferrari proxy builds coming along, so there was certainly no shortage of opportunity to build out a GT-40. The Porsche 908 sort of fits that same, general mode; not a true CanAm car.

    We can open this up as a discussion topic when we put up the Rules and Registration thread this Fall, or we can talk about it now - or, both.



    • #4
      That date timeline looks good to me.
      CanAm champion Brumos are you putting the dust cover on that #33 silver bullet McLaren and retiring it? Or maybe dissecting it and letting us know your secrets? That a fantastic idea if you do!



      • Brumos RSR
        Brumos RSR commented
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        The plan was not to race the 33 TS McLaren given the potential number that may participate along with the Lola models next year. I can pull the top off the Mclaren and what's funny is it will be VERY disappointing to most, but I'm willing to share. I've already built a TS Lola Spyder that I will send in 2021. #33 Silver

    • #5
      I must admit I am disappointed I was looking forward to the 2020 edition In my book Can-Am and GT3 are the Premier Proxy Events. As I wait I will be building ,planning, testing and scheming and chomping at the bit for the official rules and date!
      Courtney Smith
      Chattanooga TN


      • Audi1
        Audi1 commented
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        Sorry about the disappointment, Courtney. But, once this COVID-19 breaks there will be a lot going on here on HRW with regards to proxies. The GT3 will still be wrapping up, the Ford vs Ferrari proxy will be starting up; the Trans-Am U2 proxy will be following close on its heels. Then the next GT3 will be kicking off in the Fall, soon to be followed by the World Championship and the Fly Classics proxies. So, it's going to be busy. Because of the movie release last November, the Ford vs Ferrari proxy took the place of what had been planned for the 2020 CanAm. So, it will have to wait for 2021, but when it launches it will be a lot like the last one - fast and fun!

      • Courtney s
        Courtney s commented
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        Audi1 I understand and I will race no matter what but in full disclosure I have been building 3 new cars for the next proxy and been making some real progress so it has been top of my project list, so I was anxious. Then with the lack of racing on line i guess the quarantine got to me , I didn't think it would. Cursed COVID-19 Thanks For all your work on all the Proxy's and HRW I would be lost with out it!

    • #6
      -----Tires must fit fully under the fenders. Tires may NOT project beyond body work when viewed from above. Any thought of what the tire material will be? Not that I want to stir the pot for you but wouldn't it be a pleasant change/challenge to have a silicone tire event? -->(Insert Quick Slicks decal here)<----


      • cj74
        cj74 commented
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        I'd be up for it. However, I noticed the list above and the limited entries in the current Quick Slicks slip-on proxy I have a feeling a glued and tried silicone proxy will be a very tough cell with this crowd.

      • Smokeio
        Smokeio commented
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        I had to.....

      • Smokeio
        Smokeio commented
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        F1Fan commented
        Yesterday, 11:11 AM
        Interesting idea, but FWIW you will be hard pressed to find a track in Western Canada that is suited to running silicone, in fact I can only think of Slotbutton's group in Victoria that races with silicone tyres. There might be some tracks in the PNW (Kidvoltage?) in Portland, but very few if any of the "regular" proxy tracks out this way.

        Hey, ho, he, ah... wait one minute there slow poke. We rubber in our tracks for these events, you can't change your track?

    • #7
      non of the naste ak portland tracks run silicone , Only rubber tires here......
      Last edited by docdoom; April 23, 2020, 12:40 PM.
      THE other Vancouver aka Vancouver Washington across the river from keep Portland weird....
      Member NASTE (Northwest Association of Slot Track Enthusiasts)


      • #8
        Can-Am! Outstanding. I'm in and can host as well. I'd like #22 if its not taken .
        Chambersburg Pa.
        Last edited by modelersc; July 25, 2020, 10:06 AM. Reason: Chosen car number request


        • Audi1
          Audi1 commented
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          Thanks Sherman!

      • #9
        Im in # 65


        • Audi1
          Audi1 commented
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          No Rules & Registration thread posted yet, Adrian. Keep an eye peeled in the early Fall for one.


      • #10
        Rite on I will be safe😷


        • #11
          I would like to make two suggestions to add a little spice to this series:

          #1: Add a Concours competition that carries points towards the overall event, perhaps half an event's worth. The Concours should be judged by someone who knows what to look for, and the cars would be judged just prior to the first event. Points for realism and detail as well as workmanship and overall presentation.

          #2: Give an extra race point to each car in each event if they carry high wings like the cars had up to the end of the 1969 season. That will open up the entries a bit, as lots of us like the looks of those cars but would not consider entering one without some help.

          What do you think?
          Dennis Samson

          Scratchbuilding is life
          Life is scratchbuilt


          • Audi1
            Audi1 commented
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            Hi Dennis, Thanks for the suggestions. There will be a concourse and we can easily kick that up a tick along the lines that you suggest. The Rules & Registration thread will be coming out after Labor Day, so we have plenty of time to weave in some extra features for the 2021 event. Allan

          • Doubl-B
            Doubl-B commented
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            I like the idea of an incentive to encourage high wing cars and other unusual cars. Along these same lines, and this is just a suggestion, how about limiting cars on a first come first served basis on the body types (like not more than 6 or any number of any body type). Allan already referred to the SCCA proxy with a mass of Ford GT40s and now the Trans Am U2 proxy looks like a 914 proxy. I think the proxies with more variety in the cars are more interesting to follow. (Not dissing the Ford v Ferrari - that was specific to the movie inspiration.) And everyone is already putting dibs on cars and numbers (can I have Nbr. 5?) Can you say entries start at midnight on a date like 1-1-2021? Might be fun like entering a lottery to participate to lock up your desired number and car type.

        • #12
          It sounds like an interesting event. I might have to dust off a couple of my old entries and give it another run.


          • Audi1
            Audi1 commented
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            Would be good to have you back in this proxy, Ray.


        • #13

          I am just coming of of another prolonged hospital stay and had not planned to enter many events this year, but I could re-motor and put rubber under the #25 Paul Newman McKee and enter it for another round.

          Last edited by glasshorsevh; May 4, 2020, 04:28 PM.


          • Audi1
            Audi1 commented
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            Not a problem, Val. The cars won't be due until, likely May of 2021, so you have plenty of time. Look for the Rules & Registration thread sometime after Labor Day.


        • #14
          Hi Allan
          Please add me to the entry list, car #27 if possible
          Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
          aka 53BN1 (for the Healey lovers)


          • #15
            Hi Ed, Stay tuned for the Rules and Registration thread. When I put it up,I will transfer all entries and number requests from this thread.