Ford vs Ferrari - Go see it.

[HomeRacingWorld]

Have to say I was impressed. It doesn't hurt when near the beginning it shows slot cars on a floor

Some of you might need to catch your breath when you see some of the cars too.

Absolutely will own this one so I can stop stop scenes and zoom in on the cars in the background.

Anyway...it may not be accurate enough for some...but honestly, if you are a car person, it's a must see.

[WB2]

I didn’t catch all of the credits.
Alex Gurney played his father Dan.
There was a listing of drivers that included many recognizable names from modern sports car racing.
Soundtrack was pretty good, too.

[Rleog]

Behind the scenes:

https://youtu.be/PhBesrEN18w

Behind the scenes, part 2

https://youtu.be/IocyFuS6JSA

[chappyman66]

Ok....
It's a movie, not a biography or documentary. But they did at least get the LeMans results right.

And the machinery is gorgeous....I have most of the cars in the movie..😁😂

Sat next to a couple guys who didn't know the history so they said they learned a few things.... More fans and interest is never bad.

[Audi1]

I thought that the movie was terrific!

I looked at it as an historical novel and on that basis I thought that they did a good job with the different themes that run through this film. Christian Bale's portrayal of Ken Miles was really top shelf in every way. Definitely the Ford side of the story (would be interesting to see the Ferrari side; such as the difference between what Ford told Enzo verbally about his racing program and what they put on paper, but that's not going to happen), but a very well done piece of cinematography.

One paraphrased perspective comment made by a Ford Exec during the movie was: "we spend more on toilet paper than they do on their racing program." Sort of a David and Goliath story - but with a different ending.

Allan

[chappyman66]

Well.....that comment says quite a bit about the corporate thinking. Don't forget that Ford "lost" for two years - the 64 program with the MkI was a washout, and the 65 program with the MkII also fell apart (this is the first LeMans race shown in the movie). It wasn't until they put the 7L motors in the MkII that they beat the P3, and the MkIV in J-Car guise was a washout in it's first running in 1966. It wasn't redesigned until Miles was killed in testing and it then went on to beat the P4 in 1967. So in some sense, Miles was indeed responsible for Ford's success, and they pretty well shafted him. Which is the corporate way, after all....

[downtowndeco]

My short review, no spoilers. It has some slot cars. It's easy to watch and has some great action. If you're racing fan you won't be disappointed, and it's accessible enough that if you bring your wife, gf or non-racing fan friend, IMO, they'd like it too because it's not too wonky. 2 thumbs up!

[Mitch58]

My wife Chris and I went last night and both enjoyed it immensely.

[GT40 Racer (DM)]

"the 64 program with the MkI was a washout"
to be fair - the first car only made its appearance on April 1 and they finished the second car April 16 for racing at Le Mans in 20 June

"and the 65 program with the MkII also fell apart'
The two MKIIs which raced in 65 were only prototypes - the real crack was with 6 GT40s

anyone else thing the wing mirrors on the car look odd - the #7 car had them but not the others certainly not the #1 and #2 cars

[chappyman66]

[QUOTE=GT40 Racer (DM);n7086]"the 64 program with the MkI was a washout"
to be fair - the first car only made its appearance on April 1 and they finished the second car April 16 for racing at Le Mans in 20 June"

That's the point.....they thought money would win when thorough testing and preparation is and has been the key.

"and the 65 program with the MkII also fell apart'
The two MKIIs which raced in 65 were only prototypes - the real crack was with 6 GT40s"

And they still lost.....poor casting, as I recall (haunted the Ford CanAm program too). Still, point being corporate crap instead of focusing on winning.

My wife decided we could have a Daytona Coupe replica, so that was a real plus.....

[GT40 Racer (DM)]

Watched a show on Netflix - 24 Hour War - it was interesting - interviews with drivers and Shelby and mechanics and Ford officials.
It surprised me that Ford officials actually thought they could win in 64 with the GT40. They mentioned a change to the engines in '65 just before Le Mans - will have to do some research on that - the show didn't elaborate a lot (or I dozed off as I often do in documentaries) What was implied is they had done well in winning Daytona and good results at Sebring but then changed the engine for Le Mans?

The subtle theme of that show was very much corporate $$ taking on the little guy from Italy who built really fast race cars.