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  • Ferrari F40 Fly version or Policar?

    Hello fellow slot car afficionados. I have seen the youtube videos by HRW on the Ferrari F40 by Policar and somehow wasnt impressed. No magnet, no Ferrari logos, blemishes on the body. I would like to know from other forum members if the Fly version of the Ferrari F40 is better in terms of performance and esthetics? The Fly version has been out for a very long time. Any opinion would be greatly appreciated.

  • #2
    The cars are not equivalent in performance. The Policar is much faster on our tracks. However, some make the argument that the Fly is the prettier car with the double wing etc. So it sort of depends. I have one Slot.It, one Policar, and 3 SCX F40s that visitors can use. So maybe I am not the best judge....

    Anyway, it really depends on what you want and the type of racing you will do.
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    • VermillionRed
      VermillionRed commented
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      Thanks for the information .

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    I have three F40’s: Slot.it, regular Fly and Fly Racing. I am assuming the Poli F40 would be very similar to the Slot.it. In appearance I prefer the Fly cars by far: the Slot.it just does not look “right” to me. In performance (strictly no magnet) the regular Fly is completely outgunned by the other two: with a bit of work the handling is fine (actually surprisingly good given the simplicity of the chassis and running gear) but the motor is a lot weaker.

    In terms of overall performance the Fly Racing car is my pick of the three. Unfortunately they are essentially impossible to find plus they are only available in plain liveries, not in decent racing liveries.

    So that leaves the Slot.it as the best performance pick for me.

    I have no clue how they compare with magnets. I suspect the regular Fly would still not be competitive due to the weak motor.

    Alwyn

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    • #4
      As Alwyn has noted, the Fly has an 18k motor while the Slot.It / Policar has a rating of 21.5k, and is usually better torque. This normally means the Fly gets beaten off the line and down the straight.

      Also, there are a number of decal sets out there for the F-40s so repaints are planned for my SCX trio and I am sure the Fly could be detailed as well.
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      • #5
        I picked up this over summer on eBay, the body is to die for!

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        • #6
          Ok the weakness of the Fly Ferrari F40 is the motor. Basically the 18K motor doesnt suffice. There are other motors on the market. Could this problem be fixed by making a modification like adding a 21k RPM motor. Would the Fly chassis take it? Also it is widely known that the Fly running gear is noisy. I read somewhere that a quieter gear could be installed at a minimal price. I think the Fly Ferrari F40 with a few tweeks could be vastly improved.

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          • #7
            Originally posted by VermillionRed View Post
            Ok the weakness of the Fly Ferrari F40 is the motor. Basically the 18K motor doesnt suffice. There are other motors on the market. Could this problem be fixed by making a modification like adding a 21k RPM motor. Would the Fly chassis take it?
            This could be asking a bit much from the basic Fly F40 mechanicals. I scrupulously record lap times for all my cars. On a technical routed track, no magnet the following are best lap times that I have recorded for the three F40's:

            Fly: 6.976 sec
            Slot.it: 6.774 sec
            Fly Racing: 6.587 sec.

            In my car pecking order the lap time for the Fly car would be decent (65% of my cars are faster) while the Fly Racing is good (in the top 22% of my cars) My regular Fly still has all the stock mechanicals except for glued & trued urethane tyres and a bit of weight. Note that we run variable voltages per lane on the track so I bumped up the voltage for the Fly car to all but eliminate the motor disadvantage. It is nice, a fun car to drive but inherently there are limitations compared to the more sophisticated Fly Racing and Slot.it that, without magnet, cannot be overcome with just a motor and good setup.

            Originally posted by VermillionRed View Post
            Also it is widely known that the Fly running gear is noisy. I read somewhere that a quieter gear could be installed at a minimal price. I think the Fly Ferrari F40 with a few tweeks could be vastly improved.
            Yes the car can be improved by replacing the rear axle with all Slot.it components (for instance). However: as I have very carefully prepared my car (including gluing the rear bushings in place, gluing the motor in place etc), I do not believe I can get much more out of it by having metal wheels, better bushings, better gears etc. Mine with the stock mechanicals runs very nice and smoothly with not much noise. Bottom line: I think the car can be "vastly improved" by just blueprinting and properly gluing and truing the tyres and some of the other detail mods I mentioned. Any improvement after that is going to be significantly more difficult and just incremental in any case.

            My experience/opinion: others may differ and YMMV.

            Alwyn

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            • VermillionRed
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              Hi Alwyn, Thanks for your very detailed output (especially the lap times ). You answered all of my questions. The level of expertise on this forum is second to none.

          • #8
            You would have to spend quite a bit more on the Fly F-40, counting the initial price of the car, to get it at the performance level of the Slot.it or Policar versions. You would need to buy aluminum rims for the policar which would make it identical to the slot.it. The policar Ferrari has the logos that are hidden with red tape. There were several versions of the F40 so in my book the slot.it and policar renditions look as good as any out there. I have the Fly Racing version and it is better than the stock Fly version. Olifer makes a 3D printed chassis for the Fly F40 which takes a slot.it motor pod and running gear. So, if you want the looks of the Fly and the performance of the slot.it a 3D printed chassis is the way to go if money isn't a consideration.

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            • #9
              I have the racing version of the Fly F40 and it's VERY fast, as fast as any Slot It.

              I personally like the proportions of the Fly car best.
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              • #10
                The Policar/Slot It F40 looks like an interpretation of an F40 at best. The Fly version is much more accurate. My suggestion would be to buy the Fly version and put a 3D chassis under it.

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                • #11
                  Originally posted by Dogsbody View Post
                  The Policar/Slot It F40 looks like an interpretation of an F40 at best. The Fly version is much more accurate. My suggestion would be to buy the Fly version and put a 3D chassis under it.

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                  I agree the Fly is much more accurate. That is a stunning Ferrari F40. The red color is spot on. The wheels and two tier rear wing is awesome. i will try and locate one of those on that popular auction site.

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