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    I am not that knowledgeable on slot cars. I have a motor on a scalextric C2584A Williams F1 that is jammed and rough turning if at all. What would be a replacement motor part number for this car. I am located in Ottawa Canada.

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    rknight
    The motor in your Scaley F1 car is most likely what is colloquially referred to in the slot car hobby as a "slim can" motor - the two motors on the left (below) are slim can. The one on the right is an "S" can. Can you take a picture of the motor or underside of the chassis and post it here please? I will send one to you if you want - just need to be sure of the proper shaft length.

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    Peter
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    • Brad_T
      Brad_T commented
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      The Scalextric F1 car uses the slim can "FF" motor with the long shaft like the one in the center.

  • #3
    Are you certain that the problem is actually the motor? It would be very unusual for a motor to fail so that it is rough to turn. Possibly either the motor or the rear axle assembly have come adrift and need to be snapped back into place. If either of those are not the problem you can pry the motor out of the chassis and turn it by hand to see if anything wants to catch. I do not have any of these cars myself, if I recall correctly they use the FF 050 18,000 RPM slimline motor. I was not able to find any dealer that stocks that motor, perhaps some other reader knows of one. Slot Car Corner carries the Predator Slim Can motor that should have similar performance to the Scalextric motor.

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    • #4
      Thanks for the comments. I have posted a picture. I had already taken the car apart. The motor turns 1/2 turn freely and grinds like coarse sandpaper for the second 1/2 of the turn. Occasionally with many turns it will turn freely for a while 100 or so turns but jams up hard until I tug on it. Shaft is solid in the in/out of the motor. From Peters comment above and from his pic the motor looks like the center one. What can it be replaced with???

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      • PetesLightKits
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        PM me with your address and I will pop the one in the center of the picture I posted, in the mail. It is a fresh, working pull from one of my cars in which it was just too fast for the class of the car.

    • #5
      The Scalex 18k FF's come in 2 or 3 shaft lengths. You need the longer one which should be W9049. Seems yours might have thrown a wire which is jamming between the stack and the magnets. I know what it feels like.
      Last edited by Wobble; December 28, 2020, 06:04 PM.

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      • #6
        I took the motor apart to see just what was going on inside. I have attached 2 photos. Big thanks to all here for your comments and to PetesLightKits for the off line help and replacement motor.

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        • chappyman66
          chappyman66 commented
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          That's impressive, and rare. You don't often see thrown windings in these small motors/cars but clearly so in this case.

        • SlotCat
          SlotCat commented
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          Yes, wow thrown armature winding, looks to have helped the brushes to an immediate demise too.

      • #7
        Wow , I guess that is like throwing a main bearing in a 1:1 car

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        • #8
          Had a new to me motor sent from PetesLightKits. It works great, and Since I had the car apart I managed a good cleaning. Thanks for all the help on this issue.

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          • #9
            Even happens in Policar motors too. Fortunately the dealer replaced it for me.

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