Comparable classic stock cars

[slothead]

I have a racing series on my oval made up of American muscle cars (Mustang, Camaro, Firebird, & GTO) and classic stock cars (Carrera Torinos and Chargers, Monogram Fairlanes, Pioneer Charger street rods, & Proxie Cyclone bodies mounted on Pioneer Charger chassis). All are cars from the mid 60's to early 70's.

I'm looking to get one more car to complete the series while waiting for Proxie to release a Plymouth GTX or Roadrunner body. I missed out on most of the historic NASCAR releases from this era but have the #98 Carrera Torino and the newer ones, #92 & #76, and even bought an extra to repaint as Petty's #43 Torino. I also have the #58 Dan Hampton Charger 500, and the Monogram #34 Fairlane.

Feedback on what else might be available and competitive with Carrera Torinos would be helpful. I thought about the Carrera Chevele 454 but don't like cars with the guide mounted even with or behind the front axle - don't think it would be competitive with the Torinos and Chargers.

What about the Carrera Mustangs, like the #49?

[williamg]

carrera chevelle with a scalex camaro chassis, moved the front axle forward the width of an axle. It keeps up with the camaros now, just a bit heavier.

[HomeRacingWorld]

Hey that is pretty sharp!

[slothead]

I was looking at the Chevelle last night on the LEB Hobbies site. The body style is a good fit for the series and it would be a unique look with the flames up front and the racing number on the rear quarter panel. Plus, I have some Scalextric Mustang and Camaro chassis available.

What is the wheelbase for the Chevelle? I may have another chassis I can use without making the modification. Also, can you tell if the hood scoop is molded into the hood or is a glued on piece? I'd want to cut that off to reduce the drag car look.

Thanks for offering feedback.

[WB2]

Do you have the ‘76 Thunderbird? Scalextric did it in the Truxmore livery.

[slothead]

I was checking out the Truxmore car from Scalextric a few weeks ago. Problem is none are available from any hobby sites I checked. I found one on Ebay last night for $120 which is more than I'm willing to go for. At that price I could get either Carrera or Monogram historic NASCARs from the desired era from Electric Dreams.

I appreciate the feedback and will keep looking.

[Fast Co.]

Carrera made several versions of the Chevelle without the hood scoop, but I don't think any of those had the flame job.

[williamg]

looks like the scoop is glued/ maybe screwed on
There is a seam between it, and cowl induction riser
I do not think the hood comes off

There is a red, and a gold version in street form with stock style wheels but they using run for big money, hence why I bought this for 38 bucks on ebay. I stuffed the stock chassis under a diecast chevelle body. Fun to beat the sheet out of.

The wheel base on the stock carrera chassis is exactly 4.5 inches

[32lbking]

Slothead... I have the #49 Carrera mustang[sort of]. My wife bought it for one of my son in laws. I was trying to tune it about a year ago. The chassis is jacked up in the back as was the norm for hot rods back then. It has a separate motor pod. I have lowered the body posts, added weight to the bottom of the chassis and I can't remember what else. I think I pulled the magnets too. It's in a bag in pieces because I still wasn't happy with the way it runs. I think it is mainly due to the high rear end, and seems like there is not much guide lead either. I just had some surgery done and have a lot of free time for a while now so I will venture down to the dungeon and see what I can do with it and report back at a later date.
If anyone has any tips for this car I am open to suggestions. My preference would be for the Pioneer Mustang though at this time.
Randy

[williamg]

Slothead... I have the #49 Carrera mustang[sort of]. My wife bought it for one of my son in laws. I was trying to tune it about a year ago. The chassis is jacked up in the back as was the norm for hot rods back then. It has a separate motor pod. I have lowered the body posts, added weight to the bottom of the chassis and I can't remember what else. I think I pulled the magnets too. It's in a bag in pieces because I still wasn't happy with the way it runs. I think it is mainly due to the high rear end, and seems like there is not much guide lead either. I just had some surgery done and have a lot of free time for a while now so I will venture down to the dungeon and see what I can do with it and report back at a later date.
If anyone has any tips for this car I am open to suggestions. My preference would be for the Pioneer Mustang though at this time.
Randy

you should see if the standard chassis is available instead of the raised hotrod one
then you can swap all the running gear over and it uses the same body posts

[slothead]

Thanks for the thoughts guys. Because both the Carrera #49 Mustang and the 454 Chevelle are hot rod type cars, if I went with either I think I'd put a different chassis under the body. If compatible, either a Pioneer Charger or Mustang chassis would be my first choice.

But, I'm still looking forward to hearing how the restoration of the Mustang goes. 32lbking - I hope your recovery goes well and you're able to make good use of the time. Slot car projects might be the best thing for you right now.

[32lbking]

you should see if the standard chassis is available instead of the raised hotrod one
then you can swap all the running gear over and it uses the same body posts

Hey williamg... Thanks for the suggestion. I looked around and the only one of the '67 mustangs that I could find that didn't have the raised hotrod chassis was the green Fast&Furious car. That one has the older slider magnet chassis. The axle can't be swapped in to a lower chassis because the tires hang out of the fenderwell.

I remember the original idea I had for it was to just tune it as best I could without buying a bunch of parts.
I dug out the bag of parts that was the #49 and put it back together with all of the changes I had made. Been so long since I messed with it that I figure I better run it and see just what it was doing. Oh, and the magnets are still in it.
Looking at it, there is a lot of ground clearance from the chassis to the track [main issue is high center of gravity]. I have trued the tires already, but can see that if I true them down smaller that will decrease the ground clearance significantly.
The other big issue is the lack of guide lead. The guide is mounted so far BEHIND the front axle I'll refer to it as "guide trail". LOL. I want to move it forward. I have a couple Devis 3d guide adapters and a couple B-Nova ones as well. I will see which one will work best. [if I go this route it will take some time]
But I am heading down to run it now. Then I'll true the tires smaller and go from there before doing anything else. I have a few other Carrera street rods with the jacked up chassis [GTO and Camaro], but they are wider wheelbase and don't tip out of the slot like the Mustang.

Slothead... Thanks for the thoughts on recovery, so far so good. I'll report back on how the Mustang turns out.
Randy

[noddaz]

Are there 3D chassis available for any of f those? Could fix them right up.

Scott

[Half Fast Slotter]

Agree that the current Carrera Mustangs with the hot rod stance are terrible racers in stock form. They look nice, but the center of gravity is too high. My racing buddy refers to them as "Musturds".
'Nuff said.


jeff