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  • Ninco Go-Kart Fix

    Yesterday was yet another day of IHSR competition and camaraderie. It included the normal four classes of racing -- Vintage, Carrera, Sportscar and Modern LeMans -- plus a Revoslot race and a special Ninco Go-Kart IROC.

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    The IROC was the second such bonus race at an IHSR event. But this time there were issues. Serious issues. Two of the karts performed well, but the other two -- well, one was noticeably off the pace, but the other was simply "undriveable". It came off far, far too easily in the corners. Just ugly.

    Okay, it was an IROC event, so everyone had to cope with that malign machine, but it wasn't the race we had hoped for.

    Turns out the host of the event had heard of a tweak that was supposed to improve the karts' handling. It was suggested that the screw fastening the driver to his seat should be loosened a bit, much like the standard practice of loosening body mounting screws on cars.

    So we tried that, and oh my gawd! What a difference! Backing out that screw a couple of threads turned that dog of a kart into a real performer! So all four of our karts got that treatment, and the change was remarkable!

    No more formal racing was done that day, but we had four racers still on site, and we spent -- gosh -- maybe a half-hour or more just driving the wheels off those go-karts. Terrific fun! The karts were very evenly matched. They could be driven hard with few offs. But watch out making passes. Those small rear wheels could swing awfully wide.

    I should mention that we raced the karts at an increased voltage -- 15 volts instead of 11. The higher voltage gave the cars the speed they needed to make them exciting. They were turning in lap times competitive with our Carrera cars. To address any concerns about controllers being damaged by the higher voltage, I provided four identical Professor Motor Club Racer Pro controllers for the race. These controllers are designed to handle HO cars at their native 18 volts.

    It is a shame Ninco has stopped producing these karts. They provide a whole different challenge and level of fun. They can still be found on eBay, but not cheap.

    I should also mention that our host tried removing the driver's mounting screw entirely, in the twisted hope that the driver would be ejected in a crash. Didn't happen. Someone's inner 10-year-old was disappointed.

    Ed Bianchi







    Ed Bianchi
    York Pennsylvania USA

  • #2
    So why would loosening the driver screw make such a big difference? Coupla theories...

    It was observed that the kart chassis is very flexible, with a spaghetti-like frame. (I borrowed this image from eBay. Our karts had better braids.)

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    At best having the driver fastened down hard would stiffen the frame. At worst, distort it. Either effect would impact handling.

    The other possibility is the driver could act like a rattle pan -- absorbing bounce energy like a shock absorber.

    Whatever. I have NEVER seen such a dramatic change in the handling of a car, or kart! Simply remarkable. Lessons to be learned here.


    Ed Bianchi
    York Pennsylvania USA

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    • #3
      Well I’ll have to dust those off play a little when I can get 10 minutes to myself
      Dave
      Peterborough Ont
      CANADA

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      • #4
        Originally posted by HO RacePro View Post
        I should also mention that our host tried removing the driver's mounting screw entirely, in the twisted hope that the driver would be ejected in a crash. Didn't happen. Someone's inner 10-year-old was disappointed.


        That's something I would have done. Sounds like you guys had loads of fun with those karts.

        Peter

        PetesLightKits

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        • #5
          Y’all must be better drivers than I am. I’m sure my driver would have been ejected several times.

          thanks. I must try this trick later today.
          jeff

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          • #6
            While the Ninco karts are out of production, I've discovered that Scalextric has a super-kart racing set for sale. Best I can tell, however, the karts themselves are not available as separate items. At least not yet.

            From what I can see the Scalextric karts are similar in construction to the Ninco karts, and use the same style of Mabuchi open-frame motor. But the motor is installed inline instead of anglewinder, as in the Ninco.

            I think the anglewinder setup is superior, but heck, its just good to know that someone is making slot karts. I hope to buy several if I can find them as individual items for sale.

            Ed Bianchi
            HO RacePro
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            Last edited by HO RacePro; November 28, 2021, 10:48 PM.
            Ed Bianchi
            York Pennsylvania USA

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            • 4424ever
              4424ever
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              4424ever commented
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              You will find the scaly carts walk all over the nincos
              They are fun

            • Mitch58
              Mitch58
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              Mitch58 commented
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              I have both and the scaley cars are faster and smoother than my Ninco cart. I think the Ninco was designed for 14.8 volts whereas the Scaley's were built for 10-12 volts. I run 10

          • #7
            If you are looking for a great running, tuneable, durable Go Kart,........look at the ones from Nonnoslot,..nothing comes close.

            Electric Dreams (and I am sure others) have them in stock


            Cheers
            Chris Walker

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            chrisguyw
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            Last edited by chrisguyw; November 28, 2021, 07:07 PM.

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          • #8
            The Scalextric cars absolutely are available separately, depending on stock, of course. I have 5 in total so car, two from the set, and three were individual.

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            • #9
              Ahem.
              From an old post of mine:

              “August 24, 2021, 01:43 PM
              You can’t beat the scale detail of the Ninco karts.
              Urethane tires and loosen the screw that goes into the driver’s butt.
              I’m searching for the red 4:1 gear sets.”

              Karts and Super Karts (ones with the wing) use different gearing.
              And I know where there are seven Super Karts for sale at a reasonable price….

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            • #10
              Plus, I know a guy (hint, it's me) who CAD-copied the removable parts for both the regular and super karts, in case you want printed parts to make a set that at least looks the same, even if the gearing isn't the same. ;-)

              They are free to download and print your own, if you have access to a printer:
              https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4777049
              MrFlippant
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              Last edited by MrFlippant; November 29, 2021, 12:20 PM.

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